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Thousand oaks and Eucalypts (revised)

Thousand oaks, in CaliforniaNever thought I’d think of that with soft stars in my eyesHe was born – not far from rolling slopes and eucalyptsNever thought I’d wander there in mind, with heart swept sighs Lost a love from GuatemalaOnly love he’d ever known, with 20 years of careBabies from a marriage of harmony and tendernessOpened up my eyes one day, and found that he was there I know a version of the loss, so it was easyAnd as the words became a flock of birds we staredWe stand in awe at possible connections in the dawnI wonder if he thought he’d know another who would care Miss my fern fronds, in the forestMiss my dance floor of the clouds that played beneath usWhen my lost love took me flying -  smiling, carelessNothing left but memories our history bequeaths us Red haired sisters, from his familyAnd a chosen future laced with filigree of griefI spent years in bonds of service till I realised the truthThere’s also giving in receiving, and life is brief So in our silenceIn our knowingNo one else could meet us thereDid you seek meWhere I’m goingBecause you had need to share?Reach me sweetlyAre you ready?I can see your heart is bareGentle glowingCold, but flowingWarmed by courage, as you dareEmbers kindledDawn is cold nowBut the sunrise is so fairI can feel youIn the mysteryI will gift to you my care
— Cloudthings, Mar 16, 2009

About the Author

Region, Country: Australia, regional Victoria, AUS

Favorite Poets: So many... Rumi, Spike Milligan, Keats. Many of the Neopoet clan, past & present. A myriad of song writers, Dylan, Jackson Browne, Lior, & I must add the poetic influence of painters, sculptors & creators across the world... Life really, especially the sky.

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Geezer

Geezer

17 years 2 months ago

oaks and eucalypts

you may feel that it is clumsy and it may be as a song, but it is so clear what you hold dear, and that, it isn't wrong. i can't see my way to making poems having not a rhyme, you on other hand, make the stuff that shines. you can always bring me to another place and i love to fly in your sky. gee.
Cloudthings

Cloudthings

17 years 2 months ago

Hi Gee... you ALWAYS make me smile, you're always so supportive

Hi Gee... you ALWAYS make me smile, you're always so supportive, thanks. This was a scary show, so "what I did on my holidays" up front... not at all a comfortable thing for me generally. But I met someone (really new thing) who lost his partner a couple of years ago. I had a similar experience, but many years ago, & we hadn't had children... Anyway, this is what trickled out. Heh you gorgeous thing, great little poem in your response too!! Say hi to your 3rd & charmed for me (maybe some of that luck will rub off on me?) chuckle! Ah & you are welcome in my sky ANY time dear Gee, bring the family! Anni "Out beyond the ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing, there is a field. I will meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass, the world is too full to talk about ideas, language, and even the phrase, "each other" doesn't make any sense."
faerybeki

faerybeki

17 years 2 months ago

It is always a brave thing

It is always a brave thing in my book to attempt loving after great loss, but for some loving is such an intrinsic part of being that it is impossible not to! You strike me as one of those Anni, and i really enjoyed this piece, particularly the last part, the change in tempo and rhythm, the way the words just kept flowing! I also LOVED the 5th stanza, particularly the lines, 'I spent years in bonds of service til i realised the truth There's also giving in recieving, and life is brief.' i find such lessons in your work, and such wisdom, i also have this comfortable feeling of familiarity when reading you, it's almost like i've read you before, if that makes sense? Wishing you much love, light and happiness in your 'really new thing'! :) hugs b x (PS. only IF you get a chance-i would love to know what you think of 'Altar of You' a poem for a 'lost' love of mine. more hugs b x)
Cloudthings

Cloudthings

17 years 2 months ago

Looking outward - & thank you for your kindness

Hey Faery girl, look, my "cloud rock" being hugged, see, we are kindred across the ocean!!!... This was taken May last year on a singing leaders weekend at one of the most beautiful places in Australia "Wilson's promontory"... When I saw that huge round rock I wanted to go & hold it, right down near the beach it is, so lovely, just looks like it sits so lightly though. Thanks for your positive words... I still think it stumbles as a poem, the rhythm has odd spaces spoken words find hard to bridge in my mind, if you sang it, you can give it the space & emphasis the lines need to breath & relax into the flow (I should listen to what you guys say though, that IS the whole point of posting here for me), guess I just wanted to try something new here. Yes I think I like the 5th stanza too, but for my own reasons. Marks sisters & nieces & nephews & cousins mostly had red hair, my kind, wild & thick, & when he died they enveloped me so beautifully, we bacame closer than my own family. Probably still are in a way, 20 years later, I don't know what I would have done without them. I lost everyone who I felt really loved me in a 5 year period, & found new ways to connect with kindred souls over the years, I have been collecting "family" or "tribe" ever since I suppose, having learned so deeply what it's worth. In part, you think you will never love again (& a part of you wont), but mostly there is more room for love & laughter & goodness if you choose wisely. I've been so blessed, but I have also worked hard to get to here (we all know how that is don't we, no matter our losses or challenges). Being of service was not as bad as it sounds, I chose it, it served me. It was the only way I could justify being here when he wasn't, in the first few years. But the truth is, life never works well one way, either way really (selfless or selfish), & I know how much I love contributing to others, it isn't fair to rob others of the opportunity to contibute to me... It took me soooo many years to get that (& I still struggle with it sometimes). In any case, I am chuffed you picked that lined ... I pulled a whole stanza out & managed to pack it in there if you look, there's so much more that just one sentiment. Losing loved ones to accident or disease is such a huge life changing occurence, so MANY lessons & epiphanies, life is brief holds so much more than that simple 3 word set belies... I'm sure you'll find a myriad of your own meaning within it. I am so touched by your last sentence, I am moved to tears. I think the thing I most love in the world is when people can reach behind the daily "stuff" & connect souls, even briefly... You have captured in this sentence the sentiment I love so much that Joni Mitchell also captured in "Case of you" when she says .. "I remember that time you told me, you said, "Love is touching souls", well surely you touched mine, cos, part of you pours out of me in these lines from time to time". It doesn't have to be romantic love at all, I know just waht you mean, I experience it here as well, at a deep level, I think it's because we have the courage to be more vulnerable here than in most places in our lives, our skin is off here & we see into each other sometimes. I have seen it in your writing too, recognised who you are without ever knowing you. I find it a joy as you know, more tribe, more belonging in my sometimes lonely soul. I have a really full happy life in most ways, but there are holes in my soul that most people can't ever access. There are people here that know that place, it makes me feel less isolated, I thought I'd always be alone there, & here are these lovely stars twinkling from a similar place, lovely!! Sigh, hmmm, "new thing", way too new to put that kind of expectation on yet, but thank you, I am trying not to even think past the lovely unique bond that is. No idea where it will go. It's tricky since we both sense potential for more, but I am uncertain how apropriate it is, it took me years to get over losing my partner... but then, no one ever took care of me with it in that way (except his family, but not relationship wise, perhaps that's why it took me years?). I know, any connection is going to include his lost love, probably forever, I am fine with that because Mark will always be in my life, but it has to be handled with care. Anyway, I think he was always a little kindred, like us, even before his loss. We both see that, so that's good. We are not "normal" we deep feeler/thinkers, we need more, we can function quite well in a relatively normal world, but if we can't connect to one who knows our soul we often prefer to be on our own at the end of the day I think & find our kindred elsewhere. I thought I found someone who fitted into those places in my soul not so long ago & it seems I was so wrong, more than anything because he seems to have no desire to cantact me any more, I am so shocked at such immediate severance, & it feels like it must mean what we had was a complete illusion, there is no way I could do that... Anyway, it's made me a little wary of my own intuition now, sadly. Lessons, they never cease Beki. Off to look at your poem now, I am free for a short time, my student has cancelled. Anni "Out beyond the ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing, there is a field. I will meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass, the world is too full to talk about ideas, language, and even the phrase, "each other" doesn't make any sense."
B

barbsdad2003

17 years 2 months ago

Response to Anni's last comment:

I've felt it a weakness in myself that once I love, it keeps on keepin' on. By this time I'm more or less persuaded that it's instead a strength. Although I do remain mystified that others can turn the hose on ... then turn it off like turning down the handle of a spigot. Or at least that's how it looks to me. Thanx, Chuck
Cloudthings

Cloudthings

17 years 2 months ago

whatever you choose I hope it brings you happiness dear patient

Hey Chuck... but weren't we engaged last I looked (kidding)... actually I'm joining Moonman in his batchellorhood with the whipoorwhills (wish I could hear them here, I suppose we have other melancholy bird songs) Sounds so great though. Yes, I suspect it's a strength, but I am learning when you are merely smashing your face against a brick wall, it might be best to turn around while you still have one... or in my last experience, if someone just turns their back & disapears, do you sit forever & wait? I understand the desire or drive to stick (brilliant if you can get the relationship to work harmoneously.. absolutely ideal), but I don't think anyone who cared for you would actually want you to wait & be in pain... where did I read recently (something Arrow suggested?) about better to forget & smile than to remember & be in pain (forgive the clumsy quote & the lack of ref, will go look for it, think it was on something FaeryBeki wrote). Anyway, whatever you choose I hope it brings you happiness dear patient gentle one of deer & duck Cheers Anni "Out beyond the ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing, there is a field. I will meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass, the world is too full to talk about ideas, language, and even the phrase, "each other" doesn't make any sense."
faerybeki

faerybeki

17 years 2 months ago

Hey Anni, I so want to see

Hey Anni, I so want to see you hugging your beach rock but the pic i've got is an old one of you! The stones at Avebury are the same though, it's almost as if they're floating, such magical places. I was wondering if perhaps songs read as poems will always feel a bit different to us? The melody brings that extra element, changing the flow, as you say and as usual with such elegant eloquence!. verses, choruses and bridges are almost like different little poems in themselves, coming together in the one song! I can always remember my brother telling me, after my heart was broken for the first time and thought i'd never love agian, that i would love again, but it wouldn't be the same, it might be better, or worse but it would definitely be different, that struck me as a 17 year old and has stayed with me. I always find varying levels of meaning in your work, and an awful lot of it seems to resonate with me on a very personal level, your commentary and replies ring bells in my head Anni, my last attempt at a romantic relationship was EXACTLY as you described, i too found someone i thought fitted and understood those places of my soul, only to have him suddenly and inexplicably withdraw himself from my life! I tried to maintain contact with him, if only so i could know he was ok. I totally understand how it makes you feel like what you had was a lie, or to use your word illusion (much better way to put it really!) and i too have doubted myself and my intuition. I feel our journeys have had a few of the same bumps Anni, and only wish i could express as clearly and beautifully as you do the place where it has brought me. I am so grateful for this space where we all meet, and believe as you do that these words of ours can provide windows into ourselves, our souls, our sitting rooms! The inspirational people i have encountered here so far are countless, but you Anni rank no.1. i am honoured to be a tiny part of this 'neopoet tribe' .i am blessed too in my "real" life to have such friends as i call family (in some ways bigger than family because they're people i choose to have in my life and surround me!) I can't linger any longer, my daughter is almost done napping and i haven't read any poems or posted mine as yet, no doubt i'll bump into you on another page and this correspondence will continue! Much love b x
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orgami

17 years 2 months ago

flow through

for me your poems flow in my mind as this tribute poem takes me back to a softer side of what once was I i read this and you bridge the distance the grieving tender and not lost the work in my mind doesnt stutter Im reminded of library reading Poet books its almost like I can feel the page the weight of the book rather then just an impersonal screen great poem great tribute
Cloudthings

Cloudthings

17 years 2 months ago

O' you honour me again from shadowed space & distance

Lordy! you give me the most beautiful praise & encouragement O'. I do feel a little overwhelmed by it sometimes, often even just by the beautiful words you choose to convey it to me... I am truly spoilt I think, I only hope that I can give it all back into this lovely tribe here. It's funny, you'll understand this, after I began writing I had a Neil Young sort of sensation which immediately changed to Bob Dylan flavour in the 2nd stanza & it continued to flow through many of my influences like that though they are rarely as prominent as that. So you had a softer side did you? (tongue in cheek). Hate to tell you but I think it's showing here from time to time... we adore you for it... You may well hide it behind raucous guitar sound walls & vocals that slash & stab from the melodies... but I know where you've been, & I know what flows out of you "in these lines from time to time" (Joni)... I suspect you've walked many different roads of influence, or we would never connect so well as poets. I can apreciated the jagged style, but I need softness & curves & sweetness... your work is divinely full of these, with a brilliant edginess & sharp turns that pull like roller coater curves, then sweep slow hard with g force heavy moments only to pull up & slip softly into the delicious curl of a banking Spitfire into a sunset evening sky. O' you honour me again from shadowed space & distance... you, whose words weave so much astounding glitter & brushstroke texture all over these pages I write on... Ah you good thing... Any old time you like I guess I should say, it's a mutual admiration here I suppose... but it is nearly 3 am, I steal this Neo time, then end up hopeless in my "real" life... arghhhh Thank you so very much Cheers Anni "Out beyond the ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing, there is a field. I will meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass, the world is too full to talk about ideas, language, and even the phrase, "each other" doesn't make any sense."
Geezer

Geezer

17 years 2 months ago

smiling support

i'm so glad you are having another go at walking on the beach of love. if anyone deserves it, it's you 'the clouds above'. you make it so easy to be in support of you. flying in your sky is really easy too. i really should stop doing this. i will be speaking to everyone in rhyme, if i don't desist. o.k. enough.... i think that maybe i can at least thank you for the kindly words, and will accept the invite for my family to soar in your sky. as a matter of fact my grandson and i are working on something together that will appear here on the 'morrow. my wife is very supportive of my work and i think a little proud, so i will "keep on keeping on". wishing you that 'luck' gee.
Cloudthings

Cloudthings

17 years 2 months ago

Oop! You have the wrong impression I had a mild daydream only

Rhyme away you Geezer pair your words with ease for life can be a teaser, indeed with too much freeze When pain & strife meet your 3rd wife just look to them & smile for you have words with wings of birds that carry you a crooked mile. Ah, well now, I've given you the wrong impression I'm afraid, I am nowhere near the beach of love again in truth, merely found myslef daydreaming is all, about how lovely it would be to be so well loved... That connection touched me deeply, of course it would, we have both lost the love in our lives forever, you can't go through that without being indellably changed. I recognised it in him, & he had had so little contact with anyone he could openly speak of it with, it was a blooming of relief & gratitude. Nice connection, he is lovely & interesting, & maybe it's perfect for me to be there for someone in far more pain than I have experienced of late to remind me... perspective is a wicked master sometimes. His is a beautiful story but tragic (mine too I guess, just not as immediate), I worry he is way too immersed in grief still to walk with me in love of that kind, though I do know we will share a great deal, & I love easilly (it's a trait I am glad of & cultivated since Mark died to compensate for the loss), but not necessarilly romantic love... Never runs out love, the more you give the more you have to give, he needs that if nothing else, & it isn't easilly found in some ways that kind of tolerance, I only know it because I've been where he stands (or similar). But he is braver than I was at the same stage too (or maybe just has more skin on... I was so skinless for so long, everything touched me straight to the nerve, I learned to whince inside, but still it was painful just to be in the world for a long, long time). He has constant reminders of his loved partner with him in his children to her, perhaps that makes it easier. She sounds beautiful, I expect I would have loved her. Very sad. Anni "Out beyond the ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing, there is a field. I will meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass, the world is too full to talk about ideas, language, and even the phrase, "each other" doesn't make any sense."
Nordic cloud

Nordic cloud

17 years 2 months ago

You entice us

I stumbled a tiny bit in one or two verses, but as you say when they are sung they probably iron out any stumbling when read. Otherwise I loved it and when the shorter lines came I fair rode the words as in a 'pas de deux', you were bonded together there, and we hang on the words as we flow down the lines, and we love you Anni for all your playing with words to entice our minds into new ways of looking at things. Thank you again Ann of Norway
Cloudthings

Cloudthings

17 years 2 months ago

Look at you praising my phrasing as you gallop merrilly through

Yes, I think it would be a hard one to get the flow in this, perhaps I should rearrange it... but not at 3 45am!!! Am I insane! Dearest Ann, how could I sleep though with this lovely message, I have missed you actually, lovely smiling muse of mine, you are such a diamond joy woman, I adore you... Look at you praising my phrasing (oh dear it Geezer is rubbing off on me!) as you gallop merrilly through these very lines of praise with the most delicious romping eloquence... sigh! You are a delight to read... AH the wonderful flavours among the writers here eh? Dear Ann, if I give you inspiration in any way I am so glad... you bring so very much to me, so it is a wonderful deal I feel (oh no, again!) Much love & joy for your being Ann Anni "Out beyond the ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing, there is a field. I will meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass, the world is too full to talk about ideas, language, and even the phrase, "each other" doesn't make any sense."
Nordic cloud

Nordic cloud

17 years 2 months ago

You flatten me Anni

It is you who are so eloquent and so full of turns of phrasing that we all feel in awe of your waterfalls of words, and we gladly go along with the flow as if buoyed by unseen waters that are evanescent and full of colours and shapes, sounds and music, patterns and smoothness, depth and soaring seaweed dancing virvels. So there, its you who sees and gives us your utmost joys and you whom we all admire and try to emulate. So lovely that you are you and we can take part in your songs. Ann
Cloudthings

Cloudthings

17 years 2 months ago

Ahh, but lovely Ann, that's EXACTLY how I feel about you

Ahh, but lovely Ann, that's EXACTLY how I feel about you, it makes me chuckle with delight to read even this that you have written here, every word, I would offer back to you Ann of Norway. Is your snow melting? Are you warm? Are you taking magnificent photographs & writing that book I so want to read of your memoirs? xxx Anni "Out beyond the ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing, there is a field. I will meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass, the world is too full to talk about ideas, language, and even the phrase, "each other" doesn't make any sense."
Nordic cloud

Nordic cloud

17 years 2 months ago

The downies on the roofs

are melting and sliding down the roofs, looking thick and white, curving over the edges as the reach the edge before adding to the wall of snow that hides the windows of houses. I saw a house just now with the red of the opposite house in all its square windows, and the black of the other windows, a pattern against the pale yellow of the house and those miserable, but decorative trees with their fists growing fingers in front. I didn't stop there but had to a little further along as I saw such a perfect shadow of a branch on a grey surface and had to park the car and get out to take it; in doing so I also took the shiny sticky buds of the horse chestnut against the blue sky with a white sea gull flying by...the sun 'hot' the light brilliant reflected off the snow...oh how lovely is the sun of Spring with the bite of cold just a caress from the still lying snows. Oaks are fewer in Norway the dominating trees being firs and pines, birches and then aspen, the latter with their pale green barks and black fingers having made fairyt-ale silhouettes against the changing colours of Winter. This puts one in a good mood. The eucalyptus, or is it eucalypti? with their amazing coloured Autumn leaves, so subtle and gracefu. Must go Yours as aye Ann
Cloudthings

Cloudthings

17 years 2 months ago

Snow & trees & Memoirs of Ann of Norway.... Please!

Aye, as ever Ann Mmmmm how yummy to hear such descriptions, dear one, of your home & your imagery so richly described. I love that you capture these images, how I want to "eat" you & these ways in your life... you MUST you must write of them Ann, you must PLEASE, so full & creative & beautifully you would paint them in your words, please do it. You do it anyway every time you write to me, just put it together in a book, the world needs it lovely Ann... I need it. I have two major responses to your snow description... I have never experienced this seasonal snow phenomenon, only on visits to the snowfields, never in the change of season, in my little town it is unusual because it actually does snow here once or twice a winter, & every few years enough to build a snowman for a day or 2 (at most). The other is sad, since Mark, my pilot lost love, never got to see snow, I never got around to making it happen, he was 27 when he died & had never seen snow, he loved it though, his favourite animal was a Polar bear. Oh & the tree you thought were Eucalyptus trees (or Eucalypts) must be something else since these are evergreen & have no autumn leaves... Gets so pretty here in the Autumn, when the trees scattered here & there by the Europeans who settled this town turn burgandy & flame & golden among the constant green gum leaves shimmering in the sunlight. I didn't remember there were Eucalypts in California, & recently I discovered there are in Sth Africa as well. Maybe these are similar terrain? I love the Birches, these are one of my most favourite (& Japanese maple mmm don't tree evoke such deep responses in us, history & imagery & smell & texture. Anni "Out beyond the ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing, there is a field. I will meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass, the world is too full to talk about ideas, language, and even the phrase, "each other" doesn't make any sense."
Nordic cloud

Nordic cloud

17 years 2 months ago

I meant the tree's Autumn not the seasons.

I have collected many a leaf from those majestic sky reaching trees, in Corsica, for instance they were planted to keep the mosquitoes away and their autumn-like coloured leaves, that slightly faded pink with pale olive green to grey is so very beautiful I think. My dear aunt Margaret of Adelaide, missed the bare English trees so much, she would stand and stare at them in deep wonder when she came 'home' to visit her mother. She LOVED poetry and when she and her husband talked of such they seemed to be on another level, a mysteriously elevated level of understanding; I was to little to follow much but felt it in the air around them. If I were pressed to create a god, it would be a tree, or trees. They have been my support when in mourning, sad or having lost a love, there they stand, growing, so I think to myself why can't I and my depressive thoughts are strengthened by their Bach-like trunks and Mozart-like branches, their pianist-like roots and their lute-like leaves. I would really like to travel round the world visiting 'holy' or great trees, a pilgrimage for me, but then if I stand completely still in a wood I can hear those great trees communicating with those nearby, way round the earth they have their secret messages to each other. Stones come close too, Erik and I have travelled round Europe in search of the Megalithic stones of the past, standing stones fascinate us, as do the rock carvings and paintings of the world. Norway has some of the finest in the world too and precious little is done to let the world know. We wrote a book with maps and descriptions, from an aesthetic artistic point of view, but we hadn't got the money to publish it and we soon gave up at the negativity of publishers. We have at least 11000 slides of all sorts with a big collection of the rock carvings that now are partly ruined in places. Even when we printed out a big wonderful poster with English on one side and Norwegian on the other, the museum in Oslo wanted five, how could we print 5 when it cost so much. So things go down the drain, sadly. I think the tourists would have loved to see these places, they are always beautiful and those so very fascinating rock carvings, some so wonderfully lively, are just there for those who really try to find them. They are there in Italy, in Spain (not only Altamira- L'Abbée Breuil +2 others, wrote and made maps of those in SW Spain, that's a story in itself, when I found a 'ancient' book in the University library we really got inspired) in France( not least-Lascaux!) In USA in AUSTRALIA, in Japan, China Russia..........etc. and each place has its own character just like the folk music or dance. An underrated art, definitely not primitive, maybe more advanced than ours is now, it all depends on how one looks at it, the word primitive does not apply, they were just as clever as anyone today. Oh your poem is still listening to our comments, I wonder what it thinks of this digression? Dear Anni, from Ann

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