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THE TRANSIT OF VENUS

THE TRANSIT OF VENUS
 off the map for now... back to the drawing board.
— Bonitaj, Jul 15, 2009

About the Author

Region, Country: Tip of Southern Africa, ZAF

Favorite Poets: Too many to narrow down, but briefly :, AUDEN, T.S. ELIOT, DICKENSON, RILKE, THOREAU, RUMI ... the list is endless. Am inspired by many, especially those that live lives of "quiet desperation, and go to the grave with a song still in them" (THoreau)

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yenti

yenti

16 years 11 months ago

BJ

A lovely piece that had depth and meaning, with a heartbeat running through it, the heart missed a beat in the last line that will need attention, otherwise Great Yours Ian.T
Bonitaj

Bonitaj

16 years 11 months ago

Thank you Ian!

I think if I hadn't read this prior to Brian's comments and my own reply - I may have had a slight inclination to agree with you - simply because it gave from such a personal place. However! do read on and you'll know more. Thank you for the bolstering before the proverbial lashing - or I might have succumbed to the storm! lol take care Boni
B

bjp

16 years 11 months ago

Dear Bonita j,

I read your poem closely and I don't have great news. You are using successively hackneyed phrasing beginning with the title. I can't begin to tell you how many times "transit of Venus" makes it into a poem or other literature, and if you use it for a title, the content better be all new and zinging. A recent reference to its use is a play of that name by Maureen Hunter. But there are hundreds if not thousands of others. Personally, I prefer the non-rhyming style of the last stanza to the other stanzas which all rhyme. But if you are going to rhyme then the rhyming becomes crucial because it sets up the lyrical sway of the poem and getting spies into a love poem to rhyme with eyes is, well... awkward. The ideas in the second stanza are something we discussed, and are interesting ideas. There is one simple change which will immediately spice up the poem: remove the word "I" every time it occurs. The first line then becomes: Taste your skin though the textures of my tongue. The speaker really does not disappear, but the ideas hit a simmer much quicker, in part because of the juxtapositions that are left behind. But I think you should force yourself past the "rude" threshold. Write a love poem that only contains rude images (after all, you don't have to show it to anybody, so who will know). Then see if there is truly anything of interest in the poem. Try to forget comparing it to your standards for romantic behaviour for that is, after all, a quite different thing than writing a poem. Your task would be to desensitize that censor you have in your head which is only permitting the safest of phrases, safety being mostly determined, in this case, by how many times that brain has heard these phrases before and therefore how un-unique the phrases are. We want unique phrases in poetry and if you don't stretch, you won't find them. But it is clear, that your brain has all the capacity required, just not the permission. Brian
Bonitaj

Bonitaj

16 years 11 months ago

Brian!

How right you are. I sensed a paltriness about this - but submitted it anyway. I have to desist from this compulsion of having to post a poem a day. Interesting are a number of your comments inter alia: The cliched title. I thought it most risky to pliagerize a title from second hand book I picked up yesterday. Just proves that crime doesn't pay! Secondly, the idea of crossing over that threshold into "rudeness" - doesn't come naturally to me, despite the fact that some artists do it with great ease and aplomb! Moral in that story is let them do it and I find something else. In my defense I am reminded of what Martin Luther said: "Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?' Expediency asks the question, 'Is it politic?' Vanity asks the question, 'Is it popular?' But, conscience asks the question, 'Is it right?' And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular but one must take it because one's conscience tells one that it is right." In closing, I hope that you won't some day react as D.H.Lawrence did "I can haul them and urge them no more" as your comments and insights are so valuable and invariably - accurate! THanks Boni ps. Good book by the way - Australian writer from the '80's Shirley Hazzard (I know... the word play again :) I learned that the meaning of the title is simply this. Venus cannot eclipse the sun whilst making her transit. Interesting if one then runs this thread across a number of my poems. (One's Love cannot subsume or eclipse another's Narcissistic self interest!)
B

bjp

16 years 11 months ago

Dear Bonita,

I am fond of Martin Luther. And his adage you are here quoting. So long as you are mindful that your lines are safe, politic and popular but, for poetry, not "right". So, in some sense, the adage has been turned on its head. Also, remember who you are listening to: the initiator of protestantism - a revolution that saw hundreds of thousands die in the name of "right" (to be fair to Luther, I am not sure he fully understood what a can of worms he was opening). To push a point past its fair extension, one might say that, unknowingly, Luther is still somewhat the author of all puritan initiatives in the world. So there are rather dramatic costs to being "right", whatever the context. Brian
Bonitaj

Bonitaj

16 years 11 months ago

We're heading for a slippery slope...

Liked this quotation a lot - 'Our self-esteem magnifies or minimizes the good qualities of our friends according to how pleased we are with them, and we measure their worth by the way they get on with us' REFLECTIONS OR APHORISMS AND MORAL MAXIMS - Duc de la Rochfoucauld Thanks Boni
Seren

Seren

16 years 11 months ago

I loved the flow of this one

I loved the flow of this one but that last line made me pause as well I hear your heartbeat from a thousand miles the one that calls to me from leagues away in smiles ????? That could be an idea Boni I loved this one and that came to me its probably not much of an improvement just trying to help and give you some ideas for the last line ... Much Love Jayne x x
Bonitaj

Bonitaj

16 years 11 months ago

I think I took it too literally...

The meaning in the last line that is... it's to someone far away over the seas! Hence... cultures, zones (time-zones) and time (you can see why I too got confused!) Thanks for your comments - might have to change that last verse completely! CHeers Boni
Seren

Seren

16 years 11 months ago

I have only one thing to add

I have only one thing to add Boni is regards to one comment you made about cultures and zones and time and we all get confused when writing about them all perceptions are different .... the only thing hard about a distant love is just that , 'the distance' that seperates them .. sorry I am a romantic at heart time meens nothing love meens everything lol much love and big smile Jayne x x
Bonitaj

Bonitaj

16 years 11 months ago

The ol"

inchoate longing thing... for me! Never let's up! thanks for thinking of me - this poem (vanished as it is!Q) has created more comments than anything I've done thusfar! Extraordinary isn't it? Boni
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Ink Dragon

16 years 11 months ago

Boni,

I have to second Brian on the eyes/spies thing, and would like to add that miles/smiles is much in the same category for me. I like how you tried to make each stanza reflect one of the human senses, but I think this piece is really in need of a rewrite. How about trying again in free form? You can always incorporate some rhymes later. Yours, ~Nina P.S. on the title: transit can also be passage, route or conveyance. My money's on the last one of the three.

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