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That Too Shall Pass... A sonnet
It's night; the day has shut its wilder eyes
and moon descends with stretching silver rays,
it crept where crystal gems in tiny size
are out in wait for lovers' fawning praise.
The hours would slowly go, the rhythm's down,
no flattering, or words of praise expressed,
no laughs, or songs , the sky's about to frown,
the Earth becomes a hell, no one's impressed.
However dim, the dark shall also pass
when dawn in colours show its aureate thread;
extracted tresses of a charming lass
are laid with careful hands on morning's bed;
It's utmost dim that gives the birth to morns,
and prettiest roses grow amid the thorns.
About This Poem
Style/Type: Structured: Western
Review Request Direction:
What did you think of my title?
How was my language use?
What did you think of the rhythm or pattern or pacing?
How does this theme appeal to you?
How was the beginning/ending of the poem?
Is the internal logic consistent?
Review Request Intensity: I want the raw truth, feel free to knock me on my back
Editing Stage: Editing - rough draft
Comments
scribbler
8 years 4 months ago
Hi Rula
Since I suck at sonnets I'll say nothing about form but I Did enjoy the read..............stan
Rula
8 years 4 months ago
Lol Stan
I still have the faith that you will write an exceptional one someday...soon
weirdelf
8 years 4 months ago
When is Scott's workshop?
Or have you neglected to update your signature lately?
weirdelf
8 years 4 months ago
Would you like me to parse this for you, Rula?
I don't mind, it's good practice.
Rula
8 years 4 months ago
I sure appreciate it Jess
I still have faith that scott will come back with his workshop, don't know.
weirdelf
8 years 4 months ago
Remember, parsing is not an exact science, you may disagree
That Too Shall Pass... A sonnet
It's night/; the day/ has shut/ its wild/er eyes
and moon/ descends/ with stretch/ing sil/ver rays,
it crept/ where cry/stal gems/ in ti/ny size
are out/ in wait/ for lov/ers' flatt/ering praise. [ering praise - Anapestic]
The hours/ would slow/ly go/, the rhyth/m's down,
no flatt/ering,/ or words/ of praise/ expressed,
no laughs/, or songs/ , the sky's/ about/ to frown,
the earth/ becomes/ a hell/, no one's/ impressed [no one's - Trochaic]
However dim/, /the dark/ shall al/so pass [However dim/ - Anapestic]
when dawn/ in col/ours show/ its aur/eat thread;
extract/ed tress/es of/ a charm/ing lass
are laid/ with care/ful hands/ on morn/ing's bed;
It's ut/most dim/ that gives/ the birth/ to morns,
and so/ do prett/y roses/ grow with/ thorns. [ grow with - Trochaic]
weirdelf
8 years 4 months ago
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weirdelf
8 years 4 months ago
See Classification
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metre_(poetry)
Rula
8 years 4 months ago
So grateful for the effort Jess
I agree with you on
are OUT|| in WAIT||for LOV|| ers' FLATT||erring PRAISE. [ering praise - Anapestic
I still think it reads smooth or at least doesn't disturb the read, what do you think?
however,
I can't agree that "however" is anapestic. howE|| ver DIM is how I pronounce.
and this is how I parse the last line
and SO|| do PRETT||y ROS||es GROW|| with THORNS.
Keith Logan
8 years 4 months ago
I agree
with your reading of this but also realize that in different parts of the world there may be alternative pronunciations. The only line with any real problem is the fourth where "flattering" has three beats and ideally a word with just two would be better. (I don't recommend flat'ring).
Rula
8 years 4 months ago
Keith
Thank you. I am trying to find a good alternative. Any suggestions?
Keith Logan
8 years 4 months ago
Not easy
because it requires getting into your mindset. Something like faithful or honest, sincere?
Gunnar Hedlund
8 years 4 months ago
As lovely as it is
there are a few bumps, as Jess pointed. Also, 11 syllables in some lines.
But I still enjoyed the read.
weirdelf
8 years 4 months ago
true
it is not an exact science
Rula
8 years 4 months ago
Shall do the revisions soon.
Shall do the revisions soon.
Many thanks for reading and the kind comment GH,
Keith Logan
8 years 3 months ago
Counts
are not always reliable. It can be as few as nine if the poem starts with a headless iamb or as many as eleven where there is a feminine ending.
Esker
8 years 4 months ago
last line is lovely
'grown with thorns'
my only want of change
an exceptional poem!
Thank U Rula!
Mr Wolf!
Rula
8 years 4 months ago
Thank you Mr. Wolf
Your suggestion is noted. Shall edit when all the changes are decided. Thank you.
Esker
8 years 3 months ago
in addition
this poem is exceptionally beautiful..
thank U
Mr Wolf!
weirdelf
8 years 4 months ago
excellent revisions
I say parsing is not an exact science, yet the change of not just a word but even a syllable can change the whole thing.
Bloody well done, Rula, you exemplify the aspirations of Neopoet.
I applaud you.
Rula
8 years 3 months ago
Thank you
Jess. Your thoughts and visits are always appreciated.
Keith Logan
8 years 3 months ago
Sonnet Writing For Beginners
Belaboring semantics overmuch
can deaden souls to rhythms they should heed,
explaining why some poets never touch
the music of the cadence sonnets need.
To hear that inward sound, a grand huzza --
dispense with any tricks you might employ:
tap out a beat and sing, la LA la LA --
then write the way that gives you greatest joy.
While poring over poems we adore
we take to heart the lessons masters teach,
so pick up those loose iambs from the floor
and use them for sweet melodies of speech.
Leave linguistic studies on the shelf,
write first, to entertain and please yourself.
weirdelf
8 years 3 months ago
Some are natural poets.
Some like to play with strict forms. They should never be forced on anyone but neither should learning how they are done properly be denied to anyone interested.
If you are going to do them, do them right.
Keith Logan
8 years 3 months ago
The first line
is the most important of the piece.
weirdelf
8 years 3 months ago
No.
When we are talking classic forms every single foot counts.
Keith Logan
8 years 3 months ago
I was not speaking in general
The first line of the particular poem says
Belaboring semantics overmuch
Although the poem was a lighthearted throw away piece I have to stand by the thought of overmuch being an unwelcome state.
If that was not what you were questioning but the iambic counts having to be precisely five per line, then read a little Shakespeare. The first line of this poem has to be of interest.
Shakespeare’s sonnet 153
Cupid laid by his brand and fell asleep,
A maid of Dian's this advantage found,
And his love-kindling fire did quickly steep
In a cold valley-fountain of that ground:
Which borrowed from this holy fire of Love,
A dateless lively heat still to endure,
And grew a seeting bath which yet men prove,
Against strange maladies a sovereign cure:
But at my mistress' eye Love's brand new-fired,
The boy for trial needs would touch my breast,
I sick withal the help of bath desired,
And thither hied a sad distempered guest.
But found no cure, the bath for my help lies,
Where Cupid got new fire; my mistress' eyes.
Rula
8 years 3 months ago
Wow!
I really like the message delivered gently in your poem Keith "writing sonnet for the beginners", and the last couplet said it all. 'Many thanks for sharing.
Rula
8 years 3 months ago
Hello Mark
yes, it's been quite a while. I still though remember your fine message to welcome me to the site.
I highly appreciate your kind visit and the supporting words and looking forward to reading some of yours.
P.s please don't give up writing sonnets. I learnt that practicing makes perfect.
Thanks again for the passing by.
Keith Logan
8 years 3 months ago
OK, I am no expert
but should not both Earth and Hell be capitalized?
and prettiest roses grow amid the thorns.
weirdelf
8 years 3 months ago
You are no expert is proved by your last two comments
about working in classic forms.
Caps for Earth, Hell, God or other major concepts can be contextual or political, part of meaning.
eg I never cap god, partly to be purposely provocative.
Keith Logan
8 years 3 months ago
Thank you
for the correction.
Rula
8 years 3 months ago
Hello Keith
your suggestion re the last line makes a lot of sense. I really like it. Thank you.
As for the "Earth" and the "Hell", I thought I would capitalize the "Hell" Only if I mean it as a place where the dead will eventually go, as in the Heaven and the Hell, but I wanted it as a place full of pain and turmoil, However, I agree with you about the word "Earth"
Thank you for the priceless visit. It means me a lot when someone comes more than once to offer such valuable thoughts.
Keith Logan
8 years 3 months ago
I echo
what I wrote to Weirdelf.
Rula
8 years 3 months ago
hello Terry
I really appreciate your kind visit and the supporting words.
I too appreciate your interference with Keith.
Thank you again.
wesley snow
8 years 3 months ago
I am so pleased...
and proud of the poet you have become. I am grateful I had a hand in aiding the transformation. Weirdelf is correct. You have outgrown me. The student becomes the teacher.
Rula
8 years 3 months ago
Hello dear sir,
can't express my pleasure to see you back with your gentle comment, you make my day.
Welcome back!!
Sparrow
8 years 3 months ago
Dear Rula
Lovely to see you back again, sorry I missed this one.
It was a lovely read and well written.
One word bothered me that was:- "aureate" I believe it needs an "E" on the end unless I have a bad dictionary.
Look forward to more from your keys..
Yours as always, Ian xx
Rula
8 years 3 months ago
dear Ian
many thanks for the kind visit and the hawk eye. Your visit means a lot.
Rula
8 years 3 months ago
Thank you all
and sorry for the mixed-up replies. Seems like a glitch prevented to put each reply under the meant comment.
I apologize