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A Way To Say It (constructive feedback workshop)

I tried to write a sonnet, like The Bard,
to apt describe my feelings for you, love,
but it's not easy - rather, it is hard -
the words seem trite when push comes down to shove.

Comparison to bright-lit summer day,
too hot for gold complexion to adore;
rough winds, thus startling darling buds of May -
one finds that it has all been said before.

I'll use a phrase that's more in use today
to put in rhyme the joy I've known with you.
Though simple - nowhere near great William's way -
to me, nevertheless, they're just as true.

Although my saying this may sound ill-bred,
I'm glad you parked your shoes beneath my bed.

About This Poem

Style/Type: Structured: Western

Review Request Intensity: I want the raw truth, feel free to knock me on my back

Editing Stage: Editing - draft

About the Author

Region, Country: Western Australia, AUS

Favorite Poets: Favourite poets? So many, so varied. I like particular songs, not necessarily the singer... and the same goes for poetry. I can honestly say though, that Alfred Noyes' The Highwayman was what inspired my love of poetry - my mother began reading it to me when I was still a baby, and it became my favourite bedtime story

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S

scribbler

13 years 2 months ago

Hi Judy

Darn sonnet writing show off lol.I like the use of conflict in writing about being unable to write. I've even used it a few times myself . As is too typical with sonnets though a few lines and word choices seem a bit forced in order to maintain the "count" :
S-1,L-3 change rather to in fact or indeed and swap places with it's and it is
S-2,L-1Try changing to :comparing one to a bright summer day will avoid having to use Mays in following
.....L-3 drop the s in Mays
S-3,L-2 Try to write of the joy I have found in you..........just seems clser to what I think you mean to convey
But this might all be a matter of dialect as such can have a great effect ofhow something reads................stan PS note that I hit the workshop button and thus have my feedback enclosed in that official looking border lol

judyanne

judyanne

13 years 2 months ago

lol - smarty

- i went back and hit the button to enclose my comments to you on your poem
i've not been doing these workshops as long as you
and it takes a while to teach old dogs new tricks :)

thanks so much for the feedback
but stan, each of your suggestions mess with the iambic....
- and i have to disagree re dialect... i truthfully don't think it makes that much of a difference to the stress one puts on most words....
(and i like 'mays' as pleural - it fits what i'm saying
as does the word 'rather')

again - i do appreciate the feedback -
thank you
love judy
xxx

S

scribbler

13 years 2 months ago

hi

no problem as you are a much better meter maid than I lol. But I guess it just goes to show how hard it is to get meter , rhyme and form right sometimes...................stan

Candlewitch

Candlewitch

13 years 2 months ago

A Way To Say It

Dear Judy, I like your title because it is not mushy, as neither is the poem.Nice... In this stanza:

Comparing one to bright-lit summer days
too hot for gold complexions to adore;
rough winds, thus startling darling buds of Mays -
one finds that it has all been said before.

I would change L-1 to read:
Comparing one to a bright summer lit day
and L-3 to read:
rough winds, thus startling darling buds of May

as it sounds better to the ear (IMHO)

I liked these lines:

I'll use a phrase that's more in use today
to write the words of joy I found with you.
Though simple - nowhere near great William's way -
to me, nevertheless, they're just as true.

Although my saying this may sound ill-bred,
I'm glad you parked your shoes beneath my bed.

(the reference to William Shakespere?) and the last two lines that bring it into the "now"

always, Cat

judyanne

judyanne

13 years 2 months ago

i so appreciate your time cat

and thank you for your thoughts

but i can't use your suggestion as it upsets the iambic meter
'Com -PAR - ing ONE to a BRIGHT SUM - mer lit DAY'

- i don't see the problem with using 'Mays' as pleural
can you tell me why you don't like it?
just curious
as i see it as making it more 'eternal' so to speak
- i only ask, as scribbles also picked up that line

again, thank you cat
love and hugs
judy
xxxx

Candlewitch

Candlewitch

13 years 2 months ago

Dear Judy,

About "Mays" just feels archaic to me. Probably just me. I much enjoyed the write, otherwise.

always, Cat

judyanne

judyanne

13 years 2 months ago

again, thanks mark

i quite like your suggestion and will think on it
the only problem i see is 'today' is definite 'to-DAY'
whereas 'these days' has (to my ear) a slight more emphasis on the 'these' even though i know it is still unstressed....
- but as i say - i do like the idea and will definitely consider it
love judy
xxx

Rula

Rula

13 years 2 months ago

Bloody beautiful dear Judyanna

What I liked most is that I felt the poet's heart in this sonnet and not to mention the title which internally rhymes too but if I may and it is only because I've noticed it is the only two words which don't fully rhyme in your third stanza (you, true) , here

to write the words of joy I found with you...I'd suggest [to write the words of joy with you I knew
to me, nevertheless, they're just as true.... I'd suggest [ to me, nevertheless, they're true though new]
however , I know you are fully aware that yours can still work perfectly well.

judyanne

judyanne

13 years 2 months ago

thank you dear rula

'you' and 'true' both rhyme to my ear :)

but you did pick up on a line that bothered me
'to write the words of joy I found with you' ...
and i like your suggestion so will definitely think on 'to write the words of joy with you I knew'

one tiny thing i notice with your complete suggestion is that you rhyme 'new' and 'knew', which to me is using the same sound word - reading isn't so bad, bur when it is spoken it comes as a repeat....

thank you again for your time - it is appreciated
love judy
xxxx

Tommi Cordial

Tommi Cordial

13 years 2 months ago

A nie Sentiment

I love the way you carried this trough, from a love protest to a sweet encounter of chance. It was a very well put together sentiment . However, I did find myself having to build the flow of it as I had to read it more than the required twice. This is not to say that the poem in and of itself wasn't very enjoyable.

Tommi

judyanne

judyanne

13 years 2 months ago

thank you so much tommi

you don't say why the flow didn't work for you
do you know?
lol - not trying to put you on a spot
but, if you can 'put your finger' on it, i would be very interested

love judy
xxx