With The Lab and The Stream, any members who just want to post to the Stream and who don't care about credits or who don't want to be required a mimimum of quality or quantity of comments won't be affected as long as they don't opt in.

Only people who opt in will be affected? Is that correct?

Kelsey

While it's good to see that the proposal to find a way to encourage critique is now getting crystalized, i have a couple of queries:-

1. Since both routine submissions to stream and to The Lab are to be governed by the same point credit systems, why have them as separate? An example would help for better comprehension
2. Will it be difficult to explain this to new entrants and who would be explaining this to them?
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I see nearly 200 poems in the undiscovered work and it is pretty surprising to me that many poems of Esker are lying their...would critiquing poems there be eligible for credit points? Please be patient with my queries answers to which I think would benefit others too
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can I re post the poems submitted till now in stream to the Lab stream so that they get critiqued?
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We have all worked long and hard on how to encourage critique without becoming fascist and limiting.
This proposal only adds to Neopoet, it in no way limits member participation in any way. Neopoet effectively remains unchanged except for those who want to give and receive more in terms of critique. As such I don't think it requires a referendum, as adding Workshops didn't. It only adds options.

I might add that it also invigorates the spirit of Neopoet. I will always greet and check out new members, offer my services as Mentor, run Workshops and generally serve Neopoet in any capacity but now there will be a place where my poetry and critique will be appreciated and reciprocated by colleagues equally committed to the community.

I love it!

to enjoy
NEO POETS HAS TAUGHT ME SO MUCH
I NEED NOT
project myself
any more
thanks to
jess
I must fulfill
Neo's need

Since I only comment on poems requesting Harsh Feedback, at least this will give me a place where I can expect a dialogue.

My general rule of thumb is that if I see any comments on a poem, I pass it by and instead look through the undiscovered work for those iems requesting harsh feedback.

Maybe I've missed something. Just what is the advantage of posting in the lab?

Stream will be neopoet present day

Will be a second level to Neopoet requires three coomments and yo can post every five days
Advantage is you would get more critique

Is there a date set to roll this out? i think once that is done it would resolve the queries over a period of time...
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True that it must be involving a lot of work for Andrew and his team ..just wanted to know the tentative roll out plan ..if it is weeks or days away....so that until then we can lye low....
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Which of you is right? Is it one per day period whether in lab or stream or on the days when one pasts to lab can they also post to stream?

It will be nice to know every poem posted will expect forthright critique.

and like the new proposal. It should definitely bring more and better critique. I do wish to add a comment. There are some people here [ myself included ] that are tongue-tied when it comes to use of proper terms and don't want to offer critique that sounds amateurish. Remember, that when you offer critique, you are giving your opinion and as a poet, your opinion means something. Your suggestions and critique may not be taken advantage of, but the poet, may see some value in what you say. ~ Geezer.
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Kelsey's new workshop 'The Great, Big, All-Inclusive Critique Workshop' covers everything you ever wanted to know about giving 'giving', constructive, helpful critique.

Don't be put off by the optional extra reading, if you just join the workshop and participate you will learn how to be kind and helpful and sound professional at the same time.
Do not miss it.

I read Andrew's clarification that only new words in the comment will count. However for example i wish to point out comments by Mario which are lengthy but more often than not they are out of context w.r.t. the poem he comments upon and to me appear as if they are copy pasted from a bank of pre prepared comments.....

I know this is an exceptional situation yet wanted to bring it to the notice how mere quantity [new words] would qualify such members to The Lab
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