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language created, hopefully lost

it's very difficult
to have conversation
with most people in these towns,
in southern california
between the ages
of birth and thirty

the young women
and men
but mostly women
can somehow incorporate
the word "like"
three or four
sometimes even five times
in one sentence
before getting their point across
and even then so
you have to filter
the "like" filler out
in order to
comprehend
what's trying to be said

it also seems
that new words
are being created frequently
and the inambitious, illiterate fools
are being idolized for them

growing up with the same kids
speaking the same language
I somehow,
can no longer understand them

some days I feel arrogant
feeling superior to these kinds
because i am by no means
a scholar
but all I hope for in people
is that they are
half-literate

please,
stop destroying
the language
that I enjoy
speaking so passionately 


— J.Thomas, Feb 21, 2010

Critiques

xena465

xena465

16 years 3 months ago

I…being a woman…will say

I...being a woman...will say a more than a few words to you...done it already...and I say, try going outside of your area and meet people that you will enjoy a conversation with. Very strong poem...I like it. Rosina xena465
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J.Thomas

16 years 3 months ago

i have been on the outlook

i have been on the outlook for some new and intelligent people to chat with. Although, it is difficult when it seems that in entire area is swarmed with typical city dwellers. Have you written anything on this topic? any advice on how to make my poems better?
xena465

xena465

16 years 3 months ago

Just write from your heart

Just write from your heart and read them over and over until you're satisfied and happy that you've got across what you mean to say in your poem...listen to comments and if you agree then edit or just take in what's said and if you don't agree repy to comment anyway and trust in your own work. I haven't written anything in this subject...for me, if someone dosen't want to talk to me, then I just walk on by and never talk to them again...they're no big deal if they're not interested. If you want to read any of my poems...you could look through the titles to see if one catches your eye...just click on my name in my comment box to you, or type in the navigation box on the right, xena465. If you wish help with anything just let me know. You can also send private messages that only the person that you send one to can read. Rosina xena465
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J.Thomas

16 years 3 months ago

haha, anytime. well, i am

haha, anytime. well, i am quite young so if you want to be reminded of the misfortunes of your youth im sure reading my page will do you good. Thank you for reading. you always have unique responses.
J

J.Thomas

16 years 3 months ago

Do you have any words of

Do you have any words of wisdom for my poetry? Anything you think i should change? and ect. ect.
Beauregard

Beauregard

16 years 2 months ago

Neopoet is a workshop

so you should be able to expect a helpful suggestion or two from anyone who comments on your poems, but this is almost exclusively not the case, I'm afraid. You can request a special mentor (here is a list of all the mentors: www.neopoet.com/dashboard/protege) to work one-on-one with you on your poetry, but other than that there is no sure way to get advice here despite the fact that this is supposed to be a workshop environment. I can, however, promise you that on any poem of yours that I read, I will always offer my humble advice and provide suggestions to the best of my ability. I know the type of girl you write about in this poem. I'm very young as well but I can't help it when I feel a bit superior (at least intellectually, that's for certain) when I have to speak to them. It's sad really, to think of how far woman have come in the last century only to have them turn into the typical Barbie girl who's most used vocabulary word is 'like'. Lonnie has a poem on a similar topic here: www.neopoet.com/node/34331. My main suggestion is to add a tiny bit more punctuation to aid the flow of the poem and I also have a few other ideas. Note: the words before the arrow (-->) are your words as they appear in the poem and the words after the arrow are your words with my suggestions added. Also, the forward slash (/) represents your line breaks. Stanza 1- with most people in these towns--> towns, Stanza 2- and men/but mostly women--> and men,/ but mostly women, OR and men/ (but mostly women) somehow can incorporate--> can somehow incorporate Stanza 6 that I enjoy/speaking--> that I enjoy/speaking so passionately (I would suggest adding a few syllables to that last line, you could use my idea or anything else, I just think that the last line ends too abruptly) Hope this helps! I really enjoyed this poem, I feel the same way! Kelsey
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J.Thomas

16 years 2 months ago

Thank you for taking so much

Thank you for taking so much time to reply. I do have a grammar issue i will admit but, i do think i may be getting a little bit better. Do you have a mentor? I was considering that. Although, I don't spend that much time on the site i was considering getting one because I'm sure it helps a great deal. Glad to share the same point of view. By no means am i being condescending towards women it just seemed to be more popularized amongst them.
Beauregard

Beauregard

16 years 2 months ago

I'm a girl

and I'm agreeing with you on this poem; it's not condescending, it's true! I don't have a mentor; I am a mentor! This is my first week as one but after this week I will be able to take on a second protege and if it works out I would be honored to take you on as my protege! Although, I think I am younger than you so I would feel a bit awkward being your role model. Actually, I wouldn't feel awkward, but being cognizant that you might feel awkward would make me feel awkward. I'm rambling now I think so I better stop while I'm ahead! Kelsey
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J.Thomas

16 years 2 months ago

Oh, no problem at all. I’d

Oh, no problem at all. I'd love all the help i can get and you seem to be quite knowledgeable. Let me know whenever you can. You couldn't be much younger than me..could you? Even if so, I'm no the least bit bothered by that. I plan to re-edit this one when i have a moment.
Beauregard

Beauregard

16 years 2 months ago

I am not even out

high school yet, but I am very mature for my age and I have a passion for knowledge and learning, which aids the maturity thing. Kelsey
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J.Thomas

16 years 2 months ago

Wonderful, I’m hardly out

Wonderful, I'm hardly out of high school so you're not far behind. Keep me posted about the mentor thing.
Beauregard

Beauregard

16 years 2 months ago

I'm supposed to be a junior

but I take college courses, 'cause I'm a nerd. I'll let you know about the mentor thing as soon as possible! Kelsey
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Ink Dragon

16 years 2 months ago

Hello J.Thomas,

this one had me laughing out loud. It reminds me of the war many linguists are waging on English sounding words here in my home country (I'm from Germany). We have a brilliant columnist who writes about this kind of thing here (it's in German, so you won't get the joke, I'm afraid, or I'd share some of the most hilarious cases). But you see that it's a universal phenomenon you are describing here :) Yours, ~Nina
Beauregard

Beauregard

16 years 2 months ago

hilarious cases of

German words that sound like English words? Just the thought of that is making me laugh. :) Kelsey
ID

Ink Dragon

16 years 2 months ago

Ok, here's one:

a supermarket is advertising bodybags. What do you, as an English native speaker assume? Yeah, right, you think they are selling those plastic bags the dead bodies go into. BUT it really is a rucksack! Yours, ~Nina
Beauregard

Beauregard

16 years 2 months ago

so rucksuck

translates to bodybag? LOL! I guess that would be because one of the other words for rucksack is backpack? Kelsey
ID

Ink Dragon

16 years 2 months ago

It's because most Germans are plain stupid!

Do you know what a cell phone is called in German? A Handy! And Germans are obsessed with apostrophes, even though you hardly ever need an apostrophe in German. "Rosie's teas" looks good in English, but it is plain wrong to make it "Rosie's Tees" in German, because we denote possession by adding an -s, NO apostrophe involved. And many people even add an apostrophe to the plural -s, as in "Rosie's Tee's", which is an abomination! Yours, ~Nina
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J.Thomas

16 years 2 months ago

Jesus! that is hilarious.

Jesus! that is hilarious. Most americans must be absolutely petrified in germany seeing that you can get body bags for your most recent murder at the super market. Thank you for reading Nina, and also for the laugh.
Candlewitch

Candlewitch

16 years 2 months ago

Hello J. Thomas

I have to agree with you. I also abhor the way these kids write, for example: U = you UR = you are. and lower case "I" gets me going every time. You've gotten some good advice from Kelsey, stick with her and she will steer you right. Nice to meet you! Always, Cat
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panaella

16 years 2 months ago

Real English

Hello, The old hoary chestnut, revisited. English as a language is very adaptive. It has become the 'lingua franca' across the world and second only to Manderin Chinese in it's progress. With grow comes change. The english spoken in Shakespeare's time is different to that spoken in common parlance today. Californian english is a dialect...admitedly an irritating one, but essentially a dialect. English is vibrant, not fossilised like Latin. Be grateful. Ells x
CE

Cheron Evans

16 years 2 months ago

Well, you know. I mean,uh?

JT. You really stirred it up. I got a few laughs out of all the comments!

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