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Jan 31, 2013
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Lost Works
it is a place of grief and masochistic pleasure,
ghosts of Kafka,
haunted manuscripts
and burnt canvases
It bespeaks life,
death,
the caterpillar
and the snake
the moon
and her menses
things washed up by the tide
and things washed away
Nothing is created or lost in this universe.
About This Poem
Review Request Intensity: I want the raw truth, feel free to knock me on my back
Editing Stage: Editing - rough draft
Comments
Ian.T
12 years 5 months ago
Jess
Not sure where this is taking us in thought "Kafka" are you talking about the German writer.??
The last line turns the piece into a reality of becoming aware that no matter what nothing is lost, maybe they change state but the original energy still drives the effect things have on individuals..
I like this one though should I ask for more??,
Yours as always Ian.T
PS;- Judyanne referred to "Kafta" in one of her works to do with cockroaches "The Metamorphosis" I think was the one she referred to but I wish that sometimes a footnote is used to enlighten other poets.
weirdelf
12 years 5 months ago
Kafka, like me, suffered from Atelophobia.
It is an extreme form of perfectionism where one either can't start to create, for fear of imperfection, or on creating anything destroys it for its imperfections.
This poem is about getting over it and the last line is pure physics.
ps all Kafka's surviving manuscripts are singed at the edges, where Kafka threw them in the fire and his best friend rescued them and submitted them to his publishers.
Unfortunately no one did that for me and much of my best work is lost.
Linda Moses
12 years 5 months ago
Hey, Jess
Understand the problem of wanting to be perfect. My oldest brother, an artist,(or could be) will not create as he feels it will not be good enough, so he creates nothing. My late youngest brother, a poet, had constant writers block, and when he did write, it was so far out I could not understand any of it. Both brothers are so intelligent, as are you. your cloth is silk, I am just plain homespun cotton. Will read your writing again. Enjoyed. Linda
weirdelf
12 years 5 months ago
thanks Linda
It is more common than recognised.
Ian.T
12 years 5 months ago
Jess
It was you that was singed on the edges, and I hope we did retrieve you from the fire, it seems like it, as your work is now becoming better and there seems to be more breadth in your writes..
Also a more gentleness in you critique, great work Young man.
Yours as always Ian.T
weirdelf
12 years 5 months ago
Thanks Ian, yes, there is life after Jason,
though I feel irrationally guilty admitting it.
Finally finding my voice and place again. A large portion of thanks for that goes to you. Your unstinting, unconditional love and support has been an incredible boon, gobsmacking considering I have never met you or heard your voice,
much love,
weirdelf
12 years 5 months ago
that repeated that
is a very specific that, if you read it that way. Yeah, it bothers me, whilst I like it in a perverse way, I will look into that.
As to the word causing the problem, no way! When I first heard the word it made sense of my dilemma and I was able to work past it. Not all of us are anti-intellectual snobs who refer to the gut alone and despise naming.
You really do, you know. You might care to look at that.
weirdelf
12 years 5 months ago
Changed that 'that'
better, think you?
ok, I acknowledge your growth but you didn't listen to me.
Once I recognised and named the undoubtedly existing condition I was able to get over it. I now triple backup all my works and post works that I know are well below par but might have potential.
weirdelf
12 years 5 months ago
Strange question,
No eating disorders, just bipolar and variously well managed addictions.
weirdelf
12 years 5 months ago
apparently not inextricably
I have always loved me tucker, neither overeating or starving myself or purging, just enjoying! My sensuality knows no bounds.
Esker
12 years 5 months ago
Like this very much Jess!
well written
poetry
I remember burning tons of poetry
and throwing my writings away in garbage bags
for the dustmen
Thank You!
weirdelf
12 years 5 months ago
ta mate
you still set the standard for brilliantly free verse.
BettyBuff
12 years 5 months ago
Intellectual frustration
Hi Jess,
Troubled by the Kafkaesque overtones. Failure can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. However, have also lost the muse as works- in- progress at Neopoet! Nothing more horrible than feeling the flow of lovely words set free into the digital ether, lost and never retrieved. C'est la vie. Shit happens, get over it.
Love the lines '...the moon/ and her menses/ that deposited by the tide/ and that washed away'...
Try faking being happy.
Ells x
weirdelf
12 years 5 months ago
How strange.
I recognise a somewhat kafkaesque tone, but to me the overall feeling was one of hope.
Had a lifetime of faking happiness. It's too tiring.
Frenchf
12 years 5 months ago
I loved the emotions
And the intensity
Since most of my works are just tomfoolery
weirdelf
12 years 5 months ago
Ta Ff
I think your works achieve more than tomfoolery, we are often our own worst judges.
weirdelf
12 years 5 months ago
I am very surprised you didn't get the symbolism
of caterpillar and snake, in context, metamorphosis and renewal, also Ouroboros, the World Snake with it's tail in its mouth. Pretty common symbols, and nothing phallic/Freudian.
Hmm, that last line is a piece of physics, pretty crucial to cosmology, perhaps I should give it a reference or citation.
Regarding atelophobia, ignore Crud, recognising it doesn't cause it, it's the first step to beating it, and beatable it is.
weirdelf
12 years 5 months ago
To be fair, ignore Crud on this issue, he's got it wrong.
I don't ignore you generally, though I critique your work less often than it deserves, that is just my difficulty in reading and responding at the moment, I have neglected several of my favourite poets of late.
I enjoy our differences but never think I don't respect you immensely, Mr Crud, I am waiting for a break in my suddenly over-worked life to give proper attention to your ' a conflict of words'
judyanne
12 years 5 months ago
well I have stopped worrying
well I have stopped worrying about your grieving processes jess
this poem to me has so much hope in it
it is uplifting
one of the best i have read from you in a while
I just love
‘things washed up by the tide
and things washed away
… Nothing is created or lost in this universe’
lol – it is all there- somewhere…
love the references to the snake and caterpillar, but I appreciate especially the one to Kafka, not only for the allusion to perfectionism, but also with the associated words – ghosts, haunted… which that man certainly was, and many great artists are…
but lol - so many poets threw away great works – I’ve heard a few stories of poems rescued from the bins by friends/assistants… Rudyard Kipling’s ‘The Recessional’ being one…
great write jess
love judy
xxx
weirdelf
12 years 5 months ago
Thank you!
I totally chuffed, you really got it!