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Feb 21, 2018
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This poem is part of the workshop:
Sunku: beyond rhyme and rhythm, search for new structures in short form
I live (Sunku)
I live
without form
just to be me
some can't
accept me
as just myself
I add
poetry
and cook till done
About This Poem
Editing Stage: Editing - rough draft
Comments
IRiz
7 years 4 months ago
Thank you for a wonderful
Thank you for a wonderful poem.
It is very Zen.
I love it simple elegance and lightness.
weirdelf
7 years 4 months ago
ta IRiz,
I said earlier that I felt the form constricting but seeing what Raj and others could do with it I tried again and found more peace than a good haiku.
Thank you.
weirdelf
7 years 4 months ago
Spot on, mate.
It does not achieve what Sunku is designed to- the meaning between the lines.
IRiz
7 years 4 months ago
Maybe not that
Maybe not that straightforward?
Thinking how much could be behind the meaning of form or structure.
Let's not try too hard to be criptic.
the warbler
practices his song
and then practices again
as Kaga no Chiyo once said.
Sparrow
7 years 4 months ago
Jess
A commitment to be outside yourself looking in, there in reason, no matter how wrong an utter disbelief in the acceptance of others liking your form.
There in poetry hides a man that has much to give, then tends to poetic needs, as a cover of all things.
Time to assess the real you, and your worth to others and then accept the truth.
Go well young Jess, here you have at last accepted that you are..
Yours as always Ian..
Geezer
7 years 4 months ago
In writing Sunku...
I've struggled with the same problem; riding that fine line of being too direct in each thought, but leaving enough room to write between the lines. I think that it does get easier with practice. It may not be something that one can do every-time without a good deal of thought. I do like the option of not being held to strict parameters. ~ Gee.
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chevyvent
7 years 4 months ago
Very Deep
Poetry can have a tendency to be abstract by intention especially considering it is written as an expression of self so naturally only the author will have a full understanding
IRiz
7 years 4 months ago
Well said. Join us please at
Well said. Join us please at the work shop. Your poetry rocks, my friend.
weirdelf
7 years 4 months ago
don't fall for it, IRiz
I think his comment is as fatuous and disingenuous as everything else he posts.
chevyvent
7 years 4 months ago
Sorry I don't live up to your standard
So sorry that you don't like my poetry I do try my best.
Funny I have 826 fans on Allpoetry who do like my writings its just sad that's all. Very sad.
weirdelf
7 years 4 months ago
You don't live up to any standards
You are a mediocre poet who learned a few tricks and has henceforth done nothing to improve your craft. That is why you are the most represented person on the 'Undiscovered works' list.
Wake up! Arsehole. Poetry is important, proselytising is spiritual rape. When you get that through your thick head you might learn a few things here to improve your craft instead of being treated as the mediocre spiritual rapist that you have been so far.
valene
7 years 4 months ago
For one with such poetic intellect I find it very flat
Or am I missing something?
weirdelf
7 years 4 months ago
Thanks for the compliment.
If you're missing something it is my fault, trying to carry too much subtext.
weirdelf
7 years 4 months ago
ps
I've been ignoring your poetry, assuming you were a mouthpiece for Crud. He and I could have been friends, he is a fine poet, but his arrogance subsumes all. Every time he has been allowed back or came back under an assumed name he has attacked Neopoet ruthlessly. He is dead to me.
You are another matter, and I am writing this assuming you might be Crud under yet another guise. To give you the benefit of the doubt I will get to and critique your work as if you are you.
My apologies for not doing so sooner. I have many roles here and several protegees so I can't give feedback as much as I would like. I will do so.
Valene, if you are still in touch with him I would like to know why he keeps trying to come back when he clearly holds Neopoet, and in fact everyone who is not himself, in such utter contempt.
valene
7 years 4 months ago
Yes, I am
and he is still up in the air as to why he was banned. As he has told me. and I have no doubt of his sincerity, that the last time he was on here, having had his ban lifted, he closed his account and all was well.
However, when he re-applied the procedure to do so here does not allow one to use the same username a second time. So, what choice was left but to use another name? He used 'Gunnar Hedlund' and made no bones about his true identity and therefore would very much like to know why and who took the decision to ban him?
As to your slating him for slating Neo, he has only spoken out when, with all good intentions in Neo's favour, he has found the standards he first encountered here to be as one on a slippery slope and, as far as he is aware, no-one (excepting Licia Daniels, of course) has left Neo as a result of his actions.
You on the other hand, as he has recalled to me, have pushed an avalanche through the timing gate without a stitch let alone a ski, to the detriment of Neo's medal haul.
I look forward to some positive answers and, hopefully, the reinstatement of a poet more than worthy of gracing Neo's boards again!
Best wishes....val.
weirdelf
7 years 4 months ago
You and he are both not listening.
Read what I said again and other's replies to your blog about it.
That's it, no more on the subject from me. As far as the Trustees and Managing Directors are concerned (ACs come and go) he is banned for life. Let it go.
fink555
7 years 3 months ago
Says
quite a bit about how the poet inhabits the actual world, how he or she has an effect on it.
fink555
7 years 2 months ago
Why
flip out like that Jess. Poets barely get any kind of recognition in this country even when they are well known. We're all in this together (except for the academics and the MFAS)
weirdelf
7 years 2 months ago
Because I flip out sometimes
Sometimes over corporate atrocities and planetary death, sometimes over a broken shoelace and I get tired of apologising.
The thing most likely to make me lose my noodle though is not being listened to. The whole issue was explained carefully and rationally by several other people besides me but some just ignored it all and kept pressing the issue.
IRiz
7 years 2 months ago
I agree poetry is a spice of
I agree poetry is a spice of life!
Mine is ginger and cinamon and white wine
How about yours? Ghost pepper I bet? Lol!
IRiz
7 years 2 months ago
I agree poetry is a spice of
I agree poetry is a spice of life!
Mine is ginger and cinamon and white wine
How about yours? Ghost pepper I bet? Lol!
IRiz
7 years 2 months ago
I agree poetry is a spice of
I agree poetry is a spice of life!
Mine is ginger and cinamon and white wine
How about yours? Ghost pepper I bet? Lol!
IRiz
7 years 2 months ago
I agree poetry is a spice of
I agree poetry is a spice of life!
Mine is ginger and cinamon and white wine
How about yours? Ghost pepper I bet? Lol!
weirdelf
7 years 2 months ago
I can't use herbs at all, they require a deft touch
just gimme a coupla handfuls of chile, tumeric, garlic, yes ginger and anything else not too subtle and I'll cook any sonnet into sauce, haiku into hamburger, even a Sunku into vindaloo!
IRiz
7 years 2 months ago
Lol, Raj might have something
Lol, Raj might have something to add to the vindaloos
fink555
7 years 2 months ago
All those
things that are true about corporate dominance and everything else is something the world files--along with everything else that matters under: repressive mechanisms.
Stock your refrigerator full of liquor and booze, and don't bother us about it. Thus is the conspiracy